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Honda Civic AC Not Working, According To Car Owners

Honda Civic air conditioner compressors and condensers would fail due to leaking R-1234yf refrigerant.

– If your Honda Civic AC is not working, two lawsuits have been consolidated into one class action related to the 2016-2020 Honda Civic (2 and 4-Door), 2017-2021 Honda Civic (Hatchback) and 2017-2021 Civic Type cars R.

Eleven Honda Civic owners have filed a complaint alleging that their air conditioners stopped working due to cracks and refrigerant leaks that caused pressure loss in the air conditioning systems.

The Civic AC Consolidated Class Action includes plaintiffs in two related actions: Wong v. American Honda and Munoz v. American Honda.

A separate case, Elkins v. American Honda, had previously been dismissed by the same judge currently hearing the consolidated class action lawsuit.

The new class action lawsuit includes these 11 plaintiffs who allege that their Honda Civic AC systems have stopped working.

  • Andre Wong / California / Honda Civic 2016

  • Amado Munoz / California / 2017 Honda Civic

  • Frank Costobile / Pennsylvania / Honda Civic 2016

  • Rachel Fairchild / Florida / Honda Civic 2016

  • Carolyn Heier / Virginia / Honda Civic 2016

  • Ben Hu / California / Honda Civic 2016

  • Matthew Robinson / Florida / 2016 Honda Civic LX

  • Michael Schwartz / Oregon / Honda Civic 2017

  • Gary Tetrault / Connecticut / Honda Civic 2016

  • James Tillery / Virginia / Honda Civic 2016

  • Lingyang Yin / Washington / 2016 Honda Civic

Honda Civic customers who claim their air conditioning has stopped working say Honda is aware of the problems but will not call back cars to fix them properly.

The class action lawsuit also alleges that the Civics use R-1234yf refrigerant which is believed to be more environmentally friendly than R-134a refrigerant. However, the Honda class action lawsuit alleges that the air conditioning stops working because the system cannot handle the R-1234yf refrigerant, causing the air conditioning to stop working to cool the Civic cabin.

Leaks in condensers or compressors cause air conditioning problems, but complainants claim that failures can also occur at evaporators and discharge and suction lines.

Additionally, the lawsuit alleges that dealers often claim the air conditioning has stopped working due to impact with road debris, and sometimes dealers tell Civic owners that no leaks can be found.

Honda Civic AC breakdowns under warranty

If a Honda Civic owner goes to a dealership to fix the air conditioner that has stopped working, those owners would be charged a diagnostic fee even when the cars are covered by warranties.

Honda Civic owners would pay between $ 150 and $ 2,000 to fix air conditioning systems when they stop working, and repairs would also be unnecessary because Honda uses the same defective parts as replacements.

Whether Honda provides warranty coverage for a failed component or claims to have permanently repaired the AC system, its repair efforts are generally ineffective: other AC system components invariably fail outside of the period. warranty, forcing group members into a never-ending and costly process. Whack-a-mole game involving a vehicle they have already paid tens of thousands of dollars for. “- Class action against the Honda Civic AC

Air conditioning spare parts are said to be out of stock as many Civic cooling systems have defects that lead to systems failure. Civic owners would be faced with either going without air conditioning or purchasing aftermarket components at their own expense.

Second, Honda warranties would claim that using aftermarket parts to repair air conditioning systems would prevent Honda Civic customers from participating in recall campaigns.

According to the consolidated class action:

Honda did not disclose any of the potential failure modes of the defect to potential customers until three months after the initial complaint was filed in Elkins v. Honda when it issued TSB 19-091, extending the warranty on the AC condenser only 10 years from the date of original purchase on 2016-2018 Honda Civic vehicles. – Class action against the Honda Civic AC

The TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) says: “[t]The A / C condenser was not manufactured to specification. As a result, tiny holes can develop in the walls of the condenser tubes, allowing refrigerant to escape. “

The complainants claim that Honda used the TSB as the primary reason why the Elkins case should be dismissed, and it was dismissed. But the current lawsuit alleges that the extended warranty and free repairs offered by Honda did not include all affected vehicles.

Honda also concealed that the problem was not limited to the AC condenser as it had depicted in TSB 19-091 and in this Court, but rather that the AC compressors had also failed in record numbers. less aware.Before December 20, 2019, when he first informed his US dealers, he was aware of an “unprecedented demand for air conditioning compressors which at times created an out-of-stock situation”. Honda Civic AC lawsuit

Honda then released TSB 21-014 to include more vehicles, but the lawsuit alleges the bulletin does not properly address air conditioning issues.

The lawsuit against the Honda Civic AC was filed in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California: Wong, et al., C. American Honda Motor Co., Inc., et al..

The applicants are represented by McCune Wright Arevalo LLP, Milberg Coleman Bryson Phillips Grossman PLLC, Bradley / Grombacher LLP, Cafferty Clobes Meriwether & Sprengel LLP and Berger Montague PC.